obama. i'm directly going at the president -- >> he doesn't have an interest in deregulation. he snipped a couple of regulations and then added hurnds, literally hundreds of economically significant regulations during his term, and that's just only going to increase going forward. there is no strategy going forward to any kind of corporate tax reform. he talks about it but it's not going anywhere. there's no -- >> how can you -- what's your defense on this? >> i'm at a loss for words. >> yes. i would imagine so. >> i don't know, about the jobs council i don't think it's a huge deal that it hasn't met because they've already made recommendations. and the question is when are those recommendations ever going to see the light of day in congress. he has an american jobs act he put out. it hasn't gone anywhere in the republican house. i think those are some of the proposals that came out of the jobs council. but in terms of what mark said i think he's exactly right. the president does need to be talking about jobs more. i felt that the whole six-week period after the election until